tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21068675.post3713211378906764237..comments2024-03-11T11:38:56.028-07:00Comments on A Fisherman Knits: Waist Coats & VestsAaronhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05150805906414546377noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21068675.post-62207594146854778202013-02-17T15:19:46.839-08:002013-02-17T15:19:46.839-08:00In Victorin and later times,we came up with all of...In Victorin and later times,we came up with all of these fancy words for seaman's sweaters. I am coming to think that such warm objects knit with long needle were common, everyday objects,and were called "shirts", "jackets", "frocks","waistcoats",and so forth. It is only when such objects become rare that special names were assigned to them. <br /><br />When the British Admiralty says "knitted worsted jacket", it is hard to think that it was woven. When they say it in two different documents, we know it is not just a typographical error.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05150805906414546377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21068675.post-23104649724034154852013-02-17T13:47:00.207-08:002013-02-17T13:47:00.207-08:00The first meaning of "worsted" is a styl...The first meaning of "worsted" is a style spinning. And then anything fabricated from such yarns.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05150805906414546377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21068675.post-62941903108998035852013-02-16T13:19:27.746-08:002013-02-16T13:19:27.746-08:00It is so difficult from older sources to even know...It is so difficult from older sources to even know what garment they refer to, let alone figuring out how it was constructed! A waistcoat is even today called a vest in the U.S., but a vest can also be a sleeveless (under)garment (and for warmth and easy fit one would hope that it is knitted!). In Dutch "vest" means a cardigan, thus a very similar garment to a knitted waistcoat with sleeves. Good luck finding out what garment the sources actually mean as pictures are so scarce! Best, Jolanda V.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21068675.post-49492022512893338642013-02-15T10:41:02.335-08:002013-02-15T10:41:02.335-08:00You are clearly unaware that the word "worste...You are clearly unaware that the word "worsted" i sused in several different ways and does not necessarily imply that a garment was knitted. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21068675.post-14611973751481398622013-02-15T01:14:52.662-08:002013-02-15T01:14:52.662-08:00Hello
Your comment: "worsted waistcoats, whi...Hello<br />Your comment: "worsted waistcoats, which I take to mean that there were knit waist coats."<br /><br />I'm sure you'll be interested to know that the term 'worsted' has its roots going back to the 12th century and derives from the village of Worstead in Norfolk - an important centre in medieval English wool production. It actually refers to WOVEN cloth and is still a well known term in the UK. I think one of the differences, apart from the fact that the wool from longwool sheep breeds was combed and then spun worsted rather than woollen, is that the woven fabric wasn't fulled. This is one company that has been making worsted cloth since 1750: http://www.foxflannel.com/Jane https://www.blogger.com/profile/11331497398603177491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21068675.post-4967564820357325132013-02-14T06:30:23.078-08:002013-02-14T06:30:23.078-08:00There are many problems in Colonial history and te...There are many problems in Colonial history and terminology. The distinction between "woolen" and "worsted" may have to do with the way the yarn is spun and not with the way the fabric was made, or with the basic material, worsted being wool and thread being linen (or hemp, but that's a whole different argument). "Weaving" was commonly used to describe knitting stockings on a knitting machine. While Europeans had some machine-knitted fabric made into what I would call a frock coat and trousers (and there are extant examples), some reenactors vehemently insist that nobody ever had one on the North American continent. Etc.=Tamarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21068675.post-52990649445264998792013-02-14T05:18:00.878-08:002013-02-14T05:18:00.878-08:00I am enjoying your blog, thank you.
As a knitter a...I am enjoying your blog, thank you.<br />As a knitter and a weaver, I see where the reference to worsted waist coats could be knitted or woven from worsted process wool yarn. I think you make an interesting point, but perhaps not a definitive one. <br />Thank you for your continued work and experimentation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com