If we
look at the standard references on clothing, waistcoats and vests were made
from woven material.
However,
Mary Thomas gives a stranded knitting technique (weaving) that she said was
much used for Victorian waistcoats. In Weldon's Practical Knitter, we see a
large number of patterns for waist coats, vests and under vests, some of
which are long sleeved.
Thus, it
is clear that the Victorians wore knit vests and waist coats without this
practice intruding into fashion history.
One
advantage of weaving is that it produces a warmer fabric with less need for
knitting tightly. For the same warmth, a waist coat of this kind of knitting
requires more wool and is heavier and bulkier than a waist coat knit with long
needles and knitting sheath of the same warmth.
When I
knit with circs, I did some weaving and as I moved to long
needles/knitting sheath, because it was very easy. However, as I came to
understand how warm fabrics knit on long needle with a knitting sheath could
be, I stopped weaving because it added weight and bulk to an already warm
fabric.
It is
interesting that directions for weaving do not appear in the Weldon
instructions.
And when
we look at Colonial trade of Maryland, 1689-1715 (1914) by M. S.
Morriss, in Appendix II, (imported from England) we do find both cloth
and “ worsted” stockings and both wool and worsted waistcoats, which I take to
mean that there were knit waist coats. The book is reprinted in The Johns
Hopkins University Studies in Historical and Political Science (1914) by Herbert
Baxter Adams
Taken in the
context of the above imported garments,
the material at http://www.history.org/history/clothing/men/mglossary.cfm
tells us that a sailor’s waistcoat could have sleeves, be called a jacket, and
be worn outer most. This is certainly consistent with seamanship texts from 1750 to 1840.
I am enjoying your blog, thank you.
ReplyDeleteAs a knitter and a weaver, I see where the reference to worsted waist coats could be knitted or woven from worsted process wool yarn. I think you make an interesting point, but perhaps not a definitive one.
Thank you for your continued work and experimentation.
There are many problems in Colonial history and terminology. The distinction between "woolen" and "worsted" may have to do with the way the yarn is spun and not with the way the fabric was made, or with the basic material, worsted being wool and thread being linen (or hemp, but that's a whole different argument). "Weaving" was commonly used to describe knitting stockings on a knitting machine. While Europeans had some machine-knitted fabric made into what I would call a frock coat and trousers (and there are extant examples), some reenactors vehemently insist that nobody ever had one on the North American continent. Etc.
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ReplyDeleteYour comment: "worsted waistcoats, which I take to mean that there were knit waist coats."
I'm sure you'll be interested to know that the term 'worsted' has its roots going back to the 12th century and derives from the village of Worstead in Norfolk - an important centre in medieval English wool production. It actually refers to WOVEN cloth and is still a well known term in the UK. I think one of the differences, apart from the fact that the wool from longwool sheep breeds was combed and then spun worsted rather than woollen, is that the woven fabric wasn't fulled. This is one company that has been making worsted cloth since 1750: http://www.foxflannel.com/
You are clearly unaware that the word "worsted" i sused in several different ways and does not necessarily imply that a garment was knitted.
ReplyDeleteIt is so difficult from older sources to even know what garment they refer to, let alone figuring out how it was constructed! A waistcoat is even today called a vest in the U.S., but a vest can also be a sleeveless (under)garment (and for warmth and easy fit one would hope that it is knitted!). In Dutch "vest" means a cardigan, thus a very similar garment to a knitted waistcoat with sleeves. Good luck finding out what garment the sources actually mean as pictures are so scarce! Best, Jolanda V.
ReplyDeleteThe first meaning of "worsted" is a style spinning. And then anything fabricated from such yarns.
ReplyDeleteIn Victorin and later times,we came up with all of these fancy words for seaman's sweaters. I am coming to think that such warm objects knit with long needle were common, everyday objects,and were called "shirts", "jackets", "frocks","waistcoats",and so forth. It is only when such objects become rare that special names were assigned to them.
ReplyDeleteWhen the British Admiralty says "knitted worsted jacket", it is hard to think that it was woven. When they say it in two different documents, we know it is not just a typographical error.